Fundamental questions that should be asked as they tell us who we are. It also lead to the introduction of layers of horizontally installed boards thicker than the clapboards - called sheathing all for the purpose of supporting the clapboards. The trusses were designed to handle a load from the top and would never stand up to the use you describe. Your professional opinion would be greatly appreciated.PaulI think that would be a REALLY big mistake!DwightThanks Paul. Whats my best fix short of major construction? This connects the home proper to the metal frame. Lets look at some insulation options relative to a baseline of 2x4 with R-15 batt: The cost to build with 2x4 prescriptively is extremely high, adding up to $6,264 in costs. Was any wind strapping used then? You would do well to read them carefully and be prompt and persistent if you see something that needs to be taken care of. Alan, Unfortunately there is no reliable way of fixing the date of a building by sizing the wall studs. When you buy a older mobile home on leased land you are REALLY locked in. Do they show up promptly if there is a problem. PROBLEMS - Over time, the shingles will succumb to the weather. In that case it would have been a delicious irony that balloon framings coming out party was in Paris as an example of American innovation. The answer to your question varies from location to location. Prescriptive-In order to meet the code prescriptively (just do what the code says) you have to have a wall cavity R- value of 20 or you can have a cavity R-value of 13 plus R-5 continuous. I have to almost gut floor sag issues (roof shingle layers weight bearing is in excess so bowing floors all exterior walls out). Artificial Wood is a composite material made using wood byproducts, such as wood chips or sawdust, and . The house is a 2 story with an attached garage and has 9 walls and an unfinished basement located in Michigan which is climate zone 5A, and Michigan has adopted IECC 2015 with some minor adjustments. For example, valuable land where no new homes were allowed. Maybe try giving the tank seals some time (hours/days?) Or could your house have been converted from a carriage house? You can email the site owner to let them know you were blocked. If the ceiling is to be textured, it is picked up and moved to a spray/paint area where someone can walk around under it and apply the coating(s). 3535 (d), 5403, 5404, and 5424. The vinyl is then covered with a protective mat or plastic sheeting. The two ends are still solid but also starting to pull away.PaulWork with the idea you want things to touch firmly, but NOT add any weight anywhere. I basically gutted the interior.I hung drywall on the ceilings and all walls 1/2 aprox. Wattle-and-daub has a lime plaster coating. It wasn't until 1953 that the TCMA finally changed its name to the Mobile Home Manufacturers of America and began focusing on bigger and better homes for full-time living. (County codes officer already said I can get a building permit if I can get it off the frame, since all else meets code. An 8 x 8-inch nominal board is actually 7 x 7 inches. A. In the following paragraphs, I will go through the construction process. In Old Norse load bearing posts were called stafr which gave rise to the term stave construction. Our Privacy PolicyEditorial Policies and Conditions of Use, Building Performance and Enclosure Consulting, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stave_church, http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/it/1999/4/1999_4_50.shtml, BSD-007: Historical Development of the Building Enclosure, BSI-035: We Need To Do It Different This Time, BSD-042: Historical Development of the Building Enclosure, BSD-112: Building Science for Strawbale Buildings. Will I be able to wall that back in as well? Balloon framed buildings are certainly lighter than those built with the earlier braced frame method, but in my experience, properly constructed, they have survived quite well. Perhaps test it in one room and watch it for problems? Photograph 5: Building AmericaAdvanced frame 2x6 structure, studs on 24 inch centers, single top and bottom plates, 1.5 inches foil faced polyisocyanurate insulating sheathing. DanHey Paul,Ive got an old single wide hillcrest trailer. The pay back on 2x8 construction in years VS $ would not be worth it. 1936-1953 produced a ton of beautiful mobile homes. construction, also called building construction, the techniques and industry involved in the assembly and erection of structures, primarily those used to provide shelter. ERI- There is a requirement when using the ERI method that mandates you follow the 2009 prescriptive code, no exceptions, which requires R-20 wall cavity or R-5 continuous and R-13 cavity. We plan to put them along the wall in our living room. Open a door and measure the distance from the outside edge of the outside trim to the inside edge of the inside trim. OSB, or oriented strand board (a composite panel similar to plywood) is up a whopping 152%, from $170 a year ago to $428 currently. Her roof is leaking. There was also a 570-seat auditorium (where large public meetings were held) and a grade school. Big posts or staves take a lot of work and use up timber so folks started to set them farther and farther apart. $1.95 sq/ft- 2x4 construction, 1 exterior foam board and R-13 cavity. We have a roof built over our trailer (and existing addition alongside); I want to open up between the trailer and the addition. It's a good idea to know the size of the framing in your house. Lumber prices have had a volatile year. Batts get pulled to the side so boxes can be installed, they come loose, etc. I built several homes like that in the 1980s. Thanks for your time and your advice! "Any idea why they would have used barnboard then plaster then lath then plaster again and no exterior sheathing?". Where are we going? Setup can raise tough issues because of the number of organizations involved. Holes have already been cut in these sheets for the water and drain line penetrations. Weatherboarding is a term Europeans use to refer to the cladding installed on the exterior of a house consisting of long thin timber boards that overlap one another either vertically or horizontally. Manufactured home wallboards range in thickness from 5/16" to ". It appears it may have been custom or a higher end home, as it has framing that meets residential code, i.e., 3/4-inch plywood flooring, 24 framing on 16-inch centers, heavy insulation, etc. Now you have me wondering if the weight of a fully tiled shower stall is comparable to the original tub filled with water? You will have much better luck looking at the architectural style or, as most towns in Ontario have very good archives, checking for references to it or it's neighbours there. These were movable beach-front properties built in the Outer Banks region of North Carolina. It started gaining popularity very early in the 20th century. How did we keep the water out of all those buildings before the use of building paper? I have a 1978 hillcrest mobile home. We are trying to roughly figure out what a 1971 Safeway 48x24ft trailer weighs empty. It is something you must think about and decide when deciding to build. It is fastened at one end and then stretched from the other. Cut the 4 x 4 to a length that makes a tight fit between the top of the block and the bottom of the wall. 1949 National Trailer: 1949 National Trailer All of our content is relevant, we publish about 1 per month and you can un-subscribe at anytime. They can pull the trap a long way before they stop moving. The wire that was coiled in the belly is pulled through these sleeves and up into the walls of the home. It makes me wonder what could be done by someone with a case of caulk who knows what he is doing.The thing is, while the wall construction looks fragile, it did meet HUD standards. JohnI have an 89 FW reflections 1480. I MIGHT have water before winter sets in this year.PaulGood luck with all that.I find it hard to imagine making a mobile home weather tight in your climate.Paul. How will they look in the future? Maybe until the first snow? Im not sure I am visualizing your layout correctly, but things like seats are normally installed last and have no load bearing or sturctural importance.Janet SteuerI bought a 1969 Detroiter, 12 x 65 with a 12 x 50 addition on it.. a friend of mine put 6x6s in the entry between living room and addition room. Home . Someone uses a router to cut notches into all the exterior wall studs and wire for the wall outlets is stapled in these notches. You might want to look up Trailersteading by Anna Hess on Amazon and read her thoughts. PaulI have a 2000 Homes of Merit double wide. It was all wood panelling and 23 construction inside.We brought 35.4 metric tonnes to the dump and we figure at most the trailer would have been 10 of that but would be good to hear from someone in the industry as well.Thanks,MonaPaulThat is a great question, but I have no idea what the answer would be.Maybe someone in the mobile home transport business will see this and provide an answer. Even the ancestry of the Dutch name ties in with Dutch and Danish settlements in East Anglia (the aforementioned Norfolk, Suffolk). I used to get $80-100 each. The problem with wattle-and-daub was its water sensitivity. Liquid glue is spread on the top of the floor joists and frame members, and sheets of tongue-and-groove plywood or OSB are nailed in place. Warranty repairs require huge amounts of travel time, and things that would have been simple to fix during construction are much more difficult to handle. Sits on Jacks that sit on dirt. Thats what a thousand years of evolution will get you. PaulHi Paul; I want to add a 30x16 porch to a 12x65 trailer, will the outside wall sustain the roofweight or should Iuse 44 under the 2x6x30 board?PaulDont add ANY weight to the home! That should make things much easier! I see the industry standard wall for most of North America circa 2015 being 2x6 advanced frame at 24-inch centers with exterior foam insulating sheathing and a spray applied cavity insulation lined with gypsum board (Photograph 5). Manufacturers and dealers love to blame each other so at least some manufacturers video tape the inside, Read More Mobile Home ManufacturersContinue, I am frequently asked for help finding someone who does good, affordable, repair work. Cavity wall insulation was first introduced during the 1970s, becoming compulsory in the 1990s for all new UK buildings. Pry off a piece of interior trim from around the door or a window. You can look at the pdf for wind rules and anything else you might want to see. That's down 49% from its $1,515 all-time high on May 28. You'd need to know if it's furring strips or a stud wall (one-by, 2x4's or 2x6's?). Horizontal timber (or log) construction was introduced to North America by the French; as such it is not a distinct New World technology. If you dont have a tester of some kind bring a small lamp with you and check EVERY outlet with it. Other tips on age. Your chances of recovering any of your investment are zero.I have heard from people in special circumstances where it made sense. The nominal 2x4 thus became the actual 1 x 3, imperceptibly, a fraction of an inch at a time. when did 2x6 construction start in canadamapei grout frost vs warm gray. Look for drips under the water heater. There was also a 7 foot hole cut into the side of the mobile home for an addition that is no longer usable. Now lets talk about the code. Open a door and measure the distance from the outside edge of the outside trim to the inside edge of the inside trim. Left the flat metal in place. Very similar! We have a very large collection of books that are placed in teak bookcases which are also very heavy. Use of the term varies with geography and age. I really dont want to tear down the existing ceiling and start over. Cloudflare Ray ID: 7a277ab26c053b50 I have been looking around under the unit and I cannotfigure out where the kitchen sink drain intersects the main sewer.None of the other appliances are plugged (bathroom sinks, toilets,tubs). A Brief History of the Construction Industry. What do you think?PaulHi Lee,I never tried anything that ambitious so this is all speculation on my part.The roof metal goes on last at the factory and is fastened over the top of the exterior wall material. These same bolts are what can be adjusted after the home is set, to stop floor squeaks. But in the last two hundred years we have been on a real tear. You should ask your builder to get a copy of the Super Good Cents standards. I would like to put a gun safe in. These bonuses are also frequently tied to attendance to avoid problems resulting from absenteeism on Mondays and Fridays. Where can I find the H U D code for 1998 code for the attachments? joeSo my mobile home is to old to move so I am wanting to take the axles off of it is there any way that could cause an issuePaulAll the houses I moved were supported on blocks with the wheels and axels hanging from their mounts with no weight on them. I think you are going to find a plastic vapor barrier, insulation and trusses above your tile. Though it was developed by the military in the 1940s, it didn't become popular in homes until the late 1970s and early 1980s. I can take hours under neath taking pics, notes, tearing out walls, ceilings. In the factory at which I worked for a few, I know that. Boring, but true. Any idea what this thing sticking out from under the trailer could be and if it is a serious problem?PaulWithout a picture I cant be sure, but on older mobile homes the hitch was frequently left in place and the skirting cut to fit around it. HOME; INTERIORS; EXTERIORS; OFFICE & PORTRAITS; PUBLICITY/EVENTS; CONSTRUCTION; INFO What needs to be done would depend on what cause the house to get out of level. Trim strips can cover a multitude of things quickly and cheaply. Do you have a idea for me it would be helpful thanks! Traps have been set. Authority: 42 U.S.C. In the 1950s, plywood sheathing and particleboard became common, and, today, most standard-construction roofs use either half-inch plywood or particleboard's big brother, oriented-strand board (OSB). Without the roof in place the walls have no lateral support.If you want a cathedral ceiling, which I can understand, you need to shop for a home that already has one.Paul, TerryHi: My wife and I bought a 1976 Barrington Mobile Home, our celling truses are 2+2. Floors are solid. Id like to put it in the vault of the ceiling. It originally referred to clapboard oak staves used to make barrels. I want to move the stove to the middle of the kitchen and build an island around it. They will dry out and start curling around the edges. I just found this site, but the Q&As have no date stamps, so I cant tell how old they are.I have a 2004 Fleetwood 14 X 70 mobile home. How long has it been since the last rent increase? We have extremely hard water. We have been using 2x6 wall framing here in the northwest in conjunction with the BPA Super Good Cents program for almost 20 years. c. 30, and M.G.L. Performance & security by Cloudflare. Quite understand. Should I worry about all of the extra weight added to the roof? The energy savings from building with 2x6 are minimal and dont outweigh the costs, saving about $.02 per sq/ft living space or $41 per year. Depending on how much the blocks sink into the soil and how much the wall rises you my have to repeat the process a few times.Then get to work on the places where water is getting into the walls and causes in the sagging, PennyMy daughter recently moved into her grandmothers doublewide which had been empty for 3 years only to discover raccoons in the ceiling. A measurement of ~10" could either be a single course with 2x6's, two courses with furring or just a giant gap. . Really. Over time the logs got farther and farther apart and became known as posts. Your statement has made me rethink my next projectremoving the original tub / shower surround and replacing it with a ready-to-install shower base and fully tiled walls using ceramic subway tiles.My tub runs along the outside wall. However, they are more fragile than site built homes so make a commitment to stay on top of maintenance if you decide to make this purchase.Best wishes,Paul. The home is hooked up to power, water and gas and everything should get tested. The work is routine, fast-paced, and physically demanding. In short, the lumber prices forecast for 2023 is looking the brightest it has since 2020. According to a local insulation company, the cost difference between installing R-15 to R-21 is $.25 sq/ft. Can I get a prefab one or should I be concerned about weight? Decks, skirting (underpinning) etc. You might call a mobile home transport place to see if anyone wants to buy them. It was a family cottage industry kind of thing. Toilets leak, windows get left open in the rain, flower pots leak, and all can cause floor problems. All this gets us balloon framing. Answer (1 of 4): If you know how to use a simple measuring stick a.k.a. Sometimes, depending on the siding that will be applied, the wire is covered with shields to prevent a nail from being driven through it when siding is applied. I read you can put strips of insulation on a tarp and put it over the metal beamsbut my insulation doesnt seem to lift off.is it heavy,,or stuck? thanks HenryPaulHi Henry,All links seem to point the HUD which is such an enormous organization I got lost trying to find anything useful. ft I had a mobile home contractor come out and he said it was wind driven (We had 30 50 mph gusts the night before with rain) rain getting in under the roof and coming down the walls. Insert a straight edge into the gap as far as it will go and note the measurement on the stud framing the door or window. The safe weighs 500 pounds and will end up being 600 pounds fully loaded. Check out this link (http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/it/1999/4/1999_4_50.shtml). Ten percent less lumber (board-footage) and 30 percent fewer pieces. I have thought about opening the wall and sister-ing each stud with another 2x 3 board so that the wall will be sturdier. Studs are the vertical boards and are normally 2 x 4 and spaced every 16 in a manufactured home. Photograph 1: Stave ChurchBorgund, Laerdal, Norway, 12th Century. The house appears to have been originally 3 rooms (living and two bedrooms now) and an extension with crawlspace was added later (also made the same way except for one partial wall, barnboard-plater-lath-plaster, entire house balloon framed). It was not a water control layer. 05-08-2017, 05:50 AM #3. He told me I dont have plywood on the outside of the house. LocationTampa Bay, Florida, USA. The action you just performed triggered the security solution. I have been an HVAC installer, insulation company owner, HERS Rater, BPI Building Analyst trainer and energy auditor. The second really big thing was the development of machine made nails. I know that seems crazy because the prescriptive code states you have to install R-20 in the walls. Balloon framing using dimensional lumber and manufactured nails was so revolutionary that a balloon framed Illinois cottage was displayed at the Paris Exhibition of 1867 as a display of American technological prowess.8Site built stick framing proved to be so fast and so efficient that it dominates residential wood-frame construction worldwide to this day. Look really carefully around the water faucets in the tub to see if there is any sign they might be leaking and letting water run behind the wall. Homes built prior to 1976 had only one or two inches of insulation wrapped around the walls, floor and ceiling, 2 x 2 or 2 x 3 studs, uninsulated air ducts in the floor and ceiling, no ceiling vapor barrier, and jalousie windows. The weight will be directly over the I beams which is good.I dont know what sort of feet come on pool tables but if you wanted to distribute the weight you might consider putting down some plywood squares under the table. When I walk carefully around on it, it seems to only have trusses about four feet apart. Im wondering if my electrical connection is under the trailer or in the walls? And for us more progressive folks I see a much greater thickness of exterior insulating sheathing and a hybrid cavity fill an R-50 wall. I was taught that a parge coat was the cementious rendering applied to the exterior of masonry foundation walls (to reduce groundwater entry) or to the interior of masonry mass walls (to reduce air leakage and water penetration), and finally to the interior of chimneys to improve gas tightness. would the trusses hold the extra wieght?HELP !!!PaulNo. It certainly wasnt designed for it. Since the plywood is square, this step really determines how straight the walls of the house become. The MHINCC distinguishes among several types of factory-built housing: manufactured homes, modular homes, panelized homes, pre-cut homes, and mobile homes . So we had two approaches going here. Many handymen wont work on mobile homes which makes the problem more difficult. Based on these standards, a 6x6-inch nominal lumber board is actually 5 x 5 inches. The 5/16" thickness used to be the most popular measurement for Paper On Gypsum (POG) wallboards, but the majority of new Clayton homes with POG wallboards are now 3/8". I often did better using my time and money looking for a home that didnt need work.Paul, AshleyHello, I just bought a 2015 Doublewide and when it was being installed on my property there was some damage to the ceiling drywall so its currently being replaced but I was just told by the contractor that the drywall was glued to the ceiling and not nailed. For many years now new mobile homes have been required to meet HUD standards for wind resistance. Working in construction for years I am able, but have no experience with mobiles. Mobile homes as we know them today came about in 1926 with automobile-pulled trailers or "Trailer Coaches." These were designed as a home away from home . Could you add extra supports that are resting on the wall & marriage line? Professor Ted Cavanagh of Dalhousie University argues that balloon framing was not invented by George Washington Snow or Augustine Taylor as Chicagoans tell it but that its origins are distinctly French. JonaI live in a 1978 double wide, not sure the make and model, I wanted to hang a swing in my sons room and was wondering if there should be studs or something in the ceiling to hang it from or if it would be a good idea, the swing is a cacoon like swing from IKEA. JamiePaulNot much I can say to that except it is really frustrating. On December 19, 2014 the Government of BC made a revision to the BC Building Code 2012 in order to increase the Energy Efficiency and Ventilation requirements of new homes and renovations and. Your addition should totally support itself. tami hendersonPlease help me. +44 (0)7540 787812 [email protected]. A lot of information out there is geared toward the energy efficiency benefits of building with 2x6, well we cant say that anymore. We simply use 1"x6" lumber to frame around the door. Having spent a lifetime in manufacturing and fabrication, and having the equipment necessary at hand, I spliced another 10 of snake onto the existing snake and still with 60 of snake I have not been able to unplug the drain. The combination of materials you describe -- interior boards, plaster, then lath and a second layer of plaster -- makes for a fairly airtight interior finish surface. This is where knowing exactly who is responsible for what will be essential. Cleaned cattle hair and mineral wool came later followed by cellulose (the best use for the NY Times I can think of). JackieI have a 1998 16 x 80 Skyline mobile home with the original roof/siding. The argument goes that colonists, not happy with wattle-and-daub infill over their timber frame buildings, installed clapboards on the outside walls for better weather protection. This design using R-15 wall insulation passes the Michigan Energy CodeWhat? The home is almost worthless if it has be be moved.Especially if you have some handyman skills, many of these problems are not that difficult or expensive to fix. Holes for the floor registers are cut, ducts installed and glued/stapled into place. They got wet and they dried. I have a canopy bed and it will not fit!PaulHi Tammie,No.Mobile home ceilings rely heavily on truss construction that provides maximum support with minimal use of materials. I never tried anything like that. The Norwegians and Swedes are well known for their vertical board-and-batten siding the origins of which can be directly traced back to their ancient stave churches (Photograph 1). To keep the posts from rotting it was found that you could support them on stones and from there it was found the posts could be supported on a raised sill frame resting on lots of stones and from there we got rubble foundations.
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