Indeed: N731NR - Aircraft Registration Information D DankVectorz Legendary Member FAA Messages 1,895 Facility N90 New York Tracon Jun 25, 2020 #6 Phillyman2633 said: What the cuck? She is going to give him the number when he's ready. If N1NR had requested clearance, ATC would have responded with clearance or denial and N1NR would have to confirm what was said. This brasher warning is intended to provide the involved flight crew with the opportunity to make note of the incident that has taken place and gather their thoughts before it is discussed. In fact, I encourage that. Turns out he's a slumlord, "supplement" pill pusher, and owns a "wealth generation" company. You have to request a Bravo clearance. What's the big deal? I remember about 20 years ago when my grandfather and I flew up to Vegas to SEMA and we flew outside class bravo and he explicitly explained that we dont get near that ring until ATC says clear to enter. If youre having medical issues or youre feeling unwell youre not supposed to be in command of an aircaft. I've been given instructions that I don't agree with. The other pilot had it right - he's a real a*&^. Can A Private Pilot Fly As A Sport Pilot. It is really important to understand how severe the consequences can be. Id. Undiagnosed tumors and the like can lead to emotional regulation problems and impaired judgement. If an air traffic controller has determined that the actions of a pilot have affected the safety of operation, then it is the controllers responsibility to notify the flight crew as soon as it is practical to do so. Most aircraft are owned by a business, a corporation, a leasing company, or someone who rents their aircraft out. Pierce, April 6, 1859. Alan BillingsFOIA Business AnalystFederal Aviation Administration AFN-400(O)
[email protected], Subject: RE: Freedom of Information Act Request: FAA records for N731NR. Good for the controller for remaining reasonable. Shout out to Capt. I'm the ATC supervisor in FSD is NxxxxR still Gotta love how times have changed I'm the ATC supervisor in FSD is NxxxxR still owned by (bus name). As a pilot, pilot deviation is something that you should avoid at all costs when possible, but what does it mean? He should AT LEAST be suspended, and frankly, given his behavior, I have no issue with his losing it. Or . NASTY ARGUMENT between Cessna Pilot and Vegas ATC! Even the simplest of deviations can make the difference between life and death, which is why it is so important to stick to the rules. Attached you will find the Acknowledgment Letter in response to your Freedom of Information Act request. Pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act, I hereby request the following records: An electronic copy of:- any accident, investigation, pilot deviation reports, legal enforcement actions (incl suspensions, revocations and/or monetary penalties) or FSDO records (including statements or phone recordings from Las Vegas or Henderson Tower ATC regarding a possible pivot deviation on June 20, 2020 where N731NR may have entered Bravo airspace without clearance*)- from 2018-Nov-5 to present,- of owner WIFE APPROVED LLC, registration N731NR, or Jeff Wachner. Next morning he called student and flew with him back to FSD did 3 practice approaches with touch and go with the last being a full stop. Is spoiled B short for "Spoiled Bravo Airspace" or "Spoiled Brat" or "Spoiled B." :). The guy is completely wrong, sad thing is he will probably only get a slap on the wrist. This pilot penatrated that airspace at what appears to have been approximately 4800. I, at times, if the weather is good enough, cancelled IFR..continuing on my own. I have to say the VASAviation guts who make these videos to an awesome job, its really cool how they combine the audio with the radar detail. "LAS: "N1NR, I told you to remain outside the Bravo". 05:29PM CDT Abel Santa Maria - SNU. Amelia McGillManagement & Program Analyst (FOIA Coordinator)FAA-Office of Foundational BusinessCorrespondence Services Branch, AFB-130424-405-7221. This guy intentionally violated it, then took up ATC's time fighting about it. The Ultimate Guide On How To Become An Airline Pilot. often don't recognize their own issue. When you have 2 F-16s or 2 F-15s escorting you that should bring sense into your head faster than having the nerve to argue. The second LAS TRACON told him to exit Bravo he should have done the max-bank 180 his aircraft and his passenger(s) and he is comfortable with and exited Bravo. Almost everybody agrees the jerk was wrong and dangerously so. However, unless you are in a Class A airspace, a pilot is allowed to cancel an IFR flight plan if the operation is being conducted in VFR weather conditions. Maybe, just maybe this controller was playing her Bravo authority a little too far? I've gotta jump on the bandwagon in wondering "just what the heck 'Karen' was thinking" when she told the 99.9999999% of commentors on this site to get the "sticks out of their asses". I hope he stops making bad decisions before he no longer has the ability to do so. The worst case scenario would not be to lose your certificate. Not only is it against our good nature, but its more work to deviate a pilot (tell on them in lay terms) than to overlook trivial pilot errors after calling them out, as long as it doesnt pose an imminent danger. Looks like he was below 6000 the whole time. Without that you cannot enter class B airspace. Keep up the anti-mask bs. Answer (1 of 8): Forgive me, but I have a tendency to twist ambiguous questions like this. ATC Audio: Negligent Pilot Argues With Air Traffic Controller, I love listening to air traffic control audio, Not Good: Boom Overture Left Without Engines, Factorydesigns Innovative New Narrow Body Business Class Seat, Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners. Nobody gives a f*. He just flat out refused. LOL this is probably the same guy that registered the aircraft to WIFE APPROVED LLC. N731NR (still whining): "I've asked for clearance multiple times. Open the communication! 3 This pilot is more than likely going to have to do recurrent training probably 10 to 15 hrs before privalages can be restored. With respect to my comment above (cant edit), delete the word email from the comment (next to last word). This guy is a class-one "all about me" narcissist who makes GA pilots look bad. Oh my gosh! Of course that is true, but people who are suffering recent onset of dementia / tumor-induced emotional outbursts / schizophrenia etc. Not for nothing, but shes only got 2 guys in the area, coulda cleared him through. Not buying the sick daughter excuse. If this pilot had any sense he would have self reported because his flight recording through the area shows something different than what he thought. The call taker should stick to the facts and avoid all emotionality, etc. Information Mike current at Henderson, they're landing 35"N731NR: [inaudible]. Humans make mistakes sometimes its not a reason to bully somebody. Dad got home that night after his charter. How Much Does It Cost To Become A Flight Instructor? He flew right across the ILS approach glideslope to LAS 26 after he was told to vacate Bravo airspace recklessly endangering multiple lives. Washington, DC 20591 Wrong. However he failed to descend below the inner ring, that ring starts at 4500 ft MSL and goes up to 10000 ft MSL. I didn't hear anything that I didn't find out of line. Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by WWFeldman, Oct 29, 2020. If this pilot had responded to the controllers first comment with, Oh my gosh. Your participation in helping us identify both our strong and weak points will help us improve our service(s) to all our stakeholders. I remember many times that pilots would argue with me about instructions. I know the FAA is trying to do the whole kinder gentler thing but there is a time to make an example. On Reddit they doxed him. Unfortunately we are unable to move forward with your request until we have a name. Otherwise he'll have his license yanked in *very* short order. The F-15 and F-16 have to go over twice that. About 45 minutes after the student left my phone rings Caller - this is xx. The compilation is based on data from the agency's Enforcement Information System ( EIS ). The company is owned by Jeff Wachner, a real estate agent in Southern California. All I do is shake my head and smile. Humans make mistakes sometimes its not a reason to bully somebody. Get the stick out of your asses". For verification purposes, even though the expiration date on the registration certificate may not match the expiration date in the FAA Aircraft . Good luck. Secure .gov websites use HTTPS He's a danger to us all and I don't want to share the sky with him. Maybe on a subconscious level, you realize that there are departures off of Runway 27R as well. Unless it has been authorized by the ATC, no pilot should operate an aircraft according to any clearance or instruction that has been issued to the pilot of another aircraft. A copy of documents responsive to the request. VFR altitude adjustable to an incorrect barometric pressure of 200'. Editorial Disclosure: The editorial content on this page is not provided by any entity mentioned herein. This notice provides new procedures for investigating pilot deviations (PD), and completing FAA Form 8020-18, Investigation of Pilot Deviation Report by certificate-holding district offices (CHDO), Flight Standards District Offices (FSDO), and certificate management offices (CMO) with oversight of air carrier operators certificated under You have to request Bravo clearance.Pilot: I requested Bravo clearance about 15 miles ago.ATC: Nobody cleared you through the Bravo but me.Pilot: Then clear me through.ATC: No!Pilot: Yes!. I don't care where people get frustrated. The magic words that should raise the hairs on the back of your neck are "possible pilot deviation." It goes without saying that you should remain vigilant as you fly around the national. For this pilot (tail number N731NR abbreviated to N1NR), it wasn't a mistake as noted by the following exchange: LAS Approach: "N1NR, I need you outside of the Bravo"N731NR: "Negative"LAS: "Negative what? He was the one that escalated the situation to where the ATC got flustered/put off by his response. She then states (in so many words) that she didn't clear him and she's the only one that can clear him. Thanks to anyone who knows.